Hello everyone and I’m Just A Dude and
today I want to talk to you about this story I found on the Christian Post
dot-com what are the biggest threats to
religious liberty in the u.s. October 21st
2019 if you want to go check it out let’s just start off right off the bat
here I’ll read it for you what is the status of religious liberty in America
what are the biggest threats to freedom of religion how should Christians
especially those who hold conservative theological views approach the debate I
think any of us who are Christians or conservatives who have a you know a
Christian background even went to Sunday school as a kid we’re getting asked
these questions even more so than we did for the last I don’t know 20 30 years or
so because of things that are going on in society that are actually changing
the view of Christianity its importance God the value of life whatever the case
may be it’s getting to a a breaking point I think here and this is why I
wanted to review this article with you Luke Goodridge an attorney with the
religious liberty Law Firm Becket attempts to answer these and
other questions in his new book free to believe the battle over religious
liberty in America we’ve long lived in a country where religious freedom was
secure and we didn’t need to give it much thought
he wrote excuse me now we’re realizing the country is changing and we might not
enjoy the same degree of religious freedom forever yep I’ve been telling
this to people who are actually Christians or go to church who believe
in Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior you kinda don’t see it happening unless
you’re really looking if we don’t start thinking about it now we’ll be
unprepared he says the Christian Post interviewed Goodrich about his book on
religious liberty and related topics including how Americans might
misunderstand freedom of religion and how he believes the US Supreme Court is
how the US Supreme Court is handling the matter
Goodrich wrote about three categories he believes many American Christians fit
into regarding how they approach religious liberty the first group which
he labels pilgrims see Christianity as having an essential place in society and
often favor of the state promoting religion I would think I would probably
generally fall into that category ii labeled martyrs believe christians
should not expect a special place in society and feel that churches should be
counterculture and expect persecution i think actually in a certain way you
would expect that to as a martyr and i think the closer and the more and more
american culture and society is changing I think the pilgrims might actually
starting to start to feel like the martyrdom ISM is actually on its way
who knows when but you kind of get that vibe
the third labeled beginners are individuals who support religious
freedom but do not feel it is an important debate and likely know little
about the topic which is very true you could actually talk to a lot of people
who go to church now who don’t understand the debate and aren’t
realizing it because those are the people that just basically go to church
they wouldn’t have any sort of strong faith or conviction in Jesus Christ they
just know go to church it’s a good thing and it kind of keeps you in line morally
to a certain respect Goodrich explained to the Christian Post that these
categories each have their own pulses and minuses when assessing the nature of
religious liberty and how it should be handled in my experience Christians fall
more into the pilgrim camp then into the martyrs camp but there are also a large
number of beginners who are just waking up to the issue and aren’t sure what to
think yet said Goodrich and as far as who is the most and least correct I
think they all have some truth in them but they are all mistaken in different
ways Goodrich who writes in the book that he believes there’s a strong
theological argument for religious freedom feels there are difficulties in
the pilgrim and martyr views when it comes to that theological basis if you
don’t have a firm biblical understanding religious freedom as a Christian
you are prone to living in fear and in the midst of religious freedom conflicts
rather than joy you’re prone to hostility towards your perceived enemies
rather than loving your enemies Goodrich told Christian Post I actually can see
that happening there are a lot of Christians who are super panicked super
you know jazzed about every little thing that actually happens to them where they
get panicky and it can actually change your mindset which actually would tell
you as a Christian that your mindset isn’t actually right if you’re
constantly no matter what your situation is the people around the world have it
far worse than we do can actually find that joy within themselves and actually
love your neighbor as you love yourself then it’s okay to be aware of certain
things and all the little nuances of life and then culture where actually
things that you would expect are always anticipated of having as far as your
religious freedom is concerned slowly being picked away a little bit by a
little bit being aware of it not losing your joy but also being conscious of the
fact that there is there is an evil out there there is a Satan out there slowly
picking away at your religious freedom and you’re not aware of it so I agree
with that my son some sense as far as this this year is I concerned but I
think there is a balance you can’t find the balance for that
now he’s generalizing here and that’s fine but I think there’s a balance and
you’re prone to having distorted view of what really is at risk when it comes to
religious liberty we’re where we should focus our efforts and what actions we
should take to protect it I think I think that’s basically a distorted view
of things too certain respect there’s always an attack on the church
there’s always an attack on Jesus Christ and you hear guys like on television
comedians what not you know these left left people left leaning people who are
all about separation of church in a statement there is no attack on the
church there’s no attack on Christmas there’s no attack on Christianity
there’s always been and there always will it’s the degree in which they’re
actually be able to laugh at things because what they see as a joke because
people I still see people going to church people who are in the know
actually do things with their church and for their church actually see things
they were able to do years ago Oh either you can maybe even still do it
now maybe but some of them some things they can’t that book the things they can
do now for example there’s still more scrutiny behind what they should do
freely before as opposed to what they can do now for example a couple years
ago I started an article about you know a church giving out free food for people
in the park we’re like basically you know homeless
people they got fined for doing that a year or two ago where for like thirty or
forty years before they did it every year just to help people out in their
community and feed them and clothe them there was a local neighborhood that
actually find them and threatened to arrest him it they didn’t stop giving
out free food to people who are homeless what kind of crackpot thing is that I
digress biggest threats to religious liberty when the book Goodrich stresses
the point that religious freedom challenges in the United States
especially for conservative Christians do not compare to what happens in many
other parts of the world well yeah of course not in other parts of the world
if you’re a Christian whether it’s India and Nigeria China you’re getting killed
your churches are getting torn down you’re getting tortured you’re getting
ridiculed publicly you’re getting taken up the credit system whatever the case
may be so yeah it’s not as bad here by any means other places around the world
in order to be well rounded and be aware of what’s going on in your locale and
your country you have to be aware of what’s going on in other parts of the
world to actually be aware of things changing in your own country and in our
case America how are things actually slowly changing here in America the
totalitarian tiptoe they call it where they start to slowly take away your
rights and you be aware of the differences of how bad it is hearing
about and their so it’s it’s it’s good to be aware of that stuff in fact here
on Christian headlines calm this is October 21st I’m recording this so here
this is under Christian persecution their latest the latest story today
China demolishes 3000 seat mega church during worship service can you believe this communist
authorities destroyed three thousand seat megachurch over the weekend using a
large excavator to tear down a tear apart the building as members and
citizens watched helplessly according to China aid they just tore down their
church because they don’t want a Christian Church there Hindus shut down
worship service in India algier sad day officials sealed buildings of country’s
largest churches don’t display your Bibles in Saudi Arabia otherwise you
probably end up getting tortured or shot or imprisoned Algeria again
Nigeria just basically the countries I mentioned before Somalia so yeah there
are things that are a lot worse in other countries than they are here that’s for
sure the sky is not falling America is not about to become Communist China but
real and significant threats do exist and they might not be quite what you
think he writes Goodrich said that many American Christians tend to make one of
two errors either to ignore very real threats to religious liberty or to
exaggerate the threats that we face this is a point of contention I have with
this article and mr. Goodrich I want examples of what things are being
exaggerated that we face that we you know the exaggerated problems that we
face what are some examples where he’s seen things that are exaggerated that
Christians are you know going crazy about supposedly hypothetically I want
to know what he’s talking about are these things I need to see examples I
don’t see any of that here in this article there have been religious
freedom losses you explained I’m noting that many of these losses happen before
they could get to the Supreme Court level there have been people whose
businesses have been shut down whose ministries have been shut down and so
there are real threats oh yes definitely people don’t see that in the news though
you want to see that on your local news or on the national news they don’t want
you to know that there’s that kind of attack on Christianity except things
that are gonna be positive for them not gonna tell you oh yeah we know we’re
a liberal group or we’re anti Christian group or we’re an anti religious group
and we just knocked on the church day oh it’s not gonna be on your ABC News at
night no but some Christians exaggerate the problems that we face in America
right now and that’s a problem in the same way that the boy who cried wolf is
a problem yes okay but he’s still not giving me an example the only things
that come to mind that I kind of mentioned before is like the attack on
Christmas chat the attack on you know Christians uh you know what what is what
what are these example is he’s talking about maybe they’re in his book but I
wish they had actually put a couple of the examples in this article so we could
actually see you know whether or not we think it’s legit it’s a legit argument
or if it’s true nevertheless Gobert spoke about the new uptick in religious
freedoms threat because our culture has changed when it comes to acceptance of
traditional Christian and beliefs that’s the truth marriage for example I’m a
Christian hey look if you’re a guy and you want to marry another guy if you’re
a girl you want to marry the guy I don’t care it’s your thing it’s cool but don’t
try to tell me the definition of marriage is now a girl and a girl and a
boy and boy the definition of itself is a man and a woman as defined in the
Bible which has been followed for thousands and thousands and thousands of
years you can get married you can call it marriage I don’t care but don’t try
to convince me that that is what marriage is it’s not okay don’t try to
convince me that my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ the gospel the New
Testament is going to sit there and tell me that Jesus says that this is goodness
is okay it’s plainly written in a loving and descriptive manner as to why it’s
not okay why it’s bad for society and so on and so forth so when people like Pete
Buddha judge he gets up there and he says I think Jesus would approve of my
marriage no he’s not no he’s not marriage is between a man and a woman
not a man and a man he loves you he wants you to be happy but when you’re
out right singing against what he told you not to do he’s not gonna say that’s
okay he’s just not gonna do it no more than if someone breaks the Ten
Commandments and they sin someone says well Jesus said it’s okay no he didn’t
God didn’t say was okay no that’s ridiculous where do I want to see those
verses for somebody says that well various possible threats to religious
freedom are discussed in the book the question of the LGBTQA yeah now they
added two more letters to it I’m just throwing it in there for effect LGBT qat
rights versus religious liberty gets more attention than other issues he told
The Christian Post that this was due to the primary audience being Christians
who adhere to traditional teachings on social issues okay for Christians who
hold traditional beliefs about human sexuality there is no doubt that the
rapid advancement of gay rights poses the most significant threat to the
religious freedom he said now see this is the thing this is the thing that
drives me crazy and I just kind of went into a tiny little rant about you can
get married to whoever you want as far as you know if you want to live with two
men if you want to live with you know your two women you want to live together
that’s your business the thing that constitute a marriage
saying it’s between a man and a woman as defined in the Bible that’s the legit
thing for me to say for myself but it’s been defined throughout history and time
for thousands of years okay now if someone else two women or two men want
to get married and they want to call it marriage I can’t stop them from saying
that but don’t convince me that that actually is the definition of marriage
that’s number one number two government has no no place in a marriage at all
period that is not in the Constitution where you know the government oversees
marriage the reason marriage under the government’s guise and ruling came into
be is because after the Civil War they wanted to control the population for
marrying blacks and whites and whites and blacks this way they could say no
marriage is purely an institution under God in the church that you belong to or
your man and a woman get together they say vows to each other government should
have no place in it at all none at all but they get everybody into
the government by saying well if you get married we’re gonna cut your taxes and
that’s essential to comes down to a tax break so if you want that tax break if
you want to be considered legal you got to go through the government get married
it was never intended marriage was never intended to go through the government so
if you have a church or a religious or a faith in you’re a homosexual and your
two guys or two girls and you went off and you got married and let’s just say I
church that totally endorses homosexuality says marriage is between a
man that’s your business but when you involve government in that it becomes a
political cultural and social issue where everybody gets lumped in and
involved and it was never intended to be that way getting married is all about
the hardest about christ as your connections to the Lord Jesus Christ
that’s your connection government should play no part in this whatsoever
so these rulings in theory should be nothing but they do because government
got its way into religion and that’s what marriage is it’s a it’s a religious
thing it’s a god thing it’s a personal thing it’s your relationship in another
person and God in his book Goodrich defines religious freedom as the
government within reasonable limits leaves your religion alone as much as
possible now this I actually get and I understand this is the difference
between total religious freedom and government stepping in and I’ll tell you
how this works generally speaking it is accepted we are a Judeo based
judeo-christian country that being said not with the government people always
conflict us to be this is a government thing it’s not a government thing
it was a people thing the majority of people when they came to this country a
great majority the people when we founded this country were Christians
therefore that is the foundation of the country has nothing to do with
government it has to do with heart it has to do with belief it has to do with
faith that is judeo-christian foundation of this country the people not the
government that’s undeniable just because it’s not in the Constitution or
in the Declaration of Independence or any of the founding fathers ever said
whoever said we’re not a judeo-christian country there meaning that in a
government sense of course we’re not we don’t want to be judeo-christian fundamental in the country that is what
they’re talking about nothing to do with government and the people who were
actually Christians and Judeo Christians who had that fundamentalist who had that
fundamental belief system well they’re the ones that wrote the laws based on
the Bible if you read it you could see where they got it from and also the one
thing the government and our Constitution does protect us from if
people actually follow it or understood it it protects us from and it’s supposed
to do this even though it has obvious it’s Clause it doesn’t matter if you’re
Christian it doesn’t matter if you’re Muslim it doesn’t matter if you’re
Buddhist it doesn’t matter if you’re Hindu you cannot touch someone else you
cannot afflict damage or hurt someone else’s person or property that is
protected regardless of your religious affiliation that is the beauty of the
Constitution so I don’t care if you have a country our country turns into a
majority of Muslim Buddhist Hindu whatever it doesn’t matter you have no
religious affiliation no one is supposed to touch you as a person inflict any
kind of damage or hurt you in any way shape or form based on their belief of
religion or harm you or your property family friends whatever they are
protected they’re all protected regardless of that
that is what the Constitution stands for the Liberty and the freedom to actually
exist amongst things that you know other people may not agree with you on and he
goes on here in recent years the Supreme Court has been doing a very good job for
protecting religious freedom under the definition good and there was only and
I’ll let you guys read the rest of this article here there’s only one bad
decision he says that was a bad decision but it was a 5-4 decision oh I’m sorry
he considers the last really bad decision from the Supreme Court on
religious freedom to be a 2010 decision and Christian Legal Society versus
Martinez in which the high count the High Court ruled that the University of
California could not could deny a Christian student group official
recognition because they required members to adhere to a statement of
faith what is the problem with that why if you’re a Christian group and you want
to keep each other accountable to God in your Lord Jesus Christ you have a
fundamental basic understanding of principles that are unwavering in that
group that’s what you want to adhere to why do not they have the freedom to
actually sign that petition and hold each other accountable but the Supreme
Court said no but you can’t do that why voluntarily you can’t do that and if you
don’t want to sustain or you know be upheld to that standard of that
statement of faith don’t join the group what is the deal
continuing that was a bad decision but it was five to four and it was on a
really odd set of facts with a narrow ruling added goodrich without the
Supreme Court was shifting to the view that the government can treat religion
as a natural part of the public square and before I continue I showed you this
here already the Christian persecution and this is just what in the last week
or two yeah goes back to the October 4th I didn’t
continue going on then but I want to show you this as well
this is another list of their Christian persecution on Christian headlines calm
and one more thing history of Congress for those of you who always argue about
you know separation of church and state you cannot take someone’s religion or
church or faith that they actually even still into who they are taken out of
them once they step into a government position that’s ridiculous Thomas
Jefferson December 1808 in write this but this is during his presidency
Thursday December 4th another member to wit samuel good from virginia appeared
and took his seat in the house the speaker informed the house that the
chaplains had proposed if agreeable to the house to hold divine
service every sunday in their chamber guess what they had religious services
christian services in the house capital during Jefferson’s time and he wasn’t an
average christian he wasn’t he didn’t believe in the christianity Christian
faith he did know that Jesus Christ teachings were fundamental part of
having a moral and high society now there was an argument going on about
Thomas Jefferson as far as well he didn’t approve this specifically no
there’s no evidence to prove that Thomas Jefferson did approve this to happen in
the house but the important thing about Jefferson was if he didn’t like
something he would say something and he wouldn’t allow it to happen guess what
it happened every Sunday for a long time there was Christian Church services in
the capital of the United States how’s that for separation of church and
state folks separation of church and state has to do with the fact that
government cannot interfere with any religious activity whatsoever it does
not mean religious activity cannot partake in any kind of government or
public forum that would go against the Constitution
wouldn’t it here I just want to go through this one more thing with you the
Bill of Rights Amendment 1 Congress shall make no law respecting an
establishment of religion basically that means like it did in England and so many
other countries they have the Christian religion was twisted and bent and
manipulated by governments the Crusades are the perfect example where the
Christian religion was overtaken by governments and then the government
could dictate to the people what they could and could not practice and the
government or the church would dictate to the people what the Bible says that’s
what this is preventing Congress shall make no law respecting the establishment
of religion or prohibiting free exercise thereof or abridging the freedom of
speech or of the press or the right of the people peaceably to assemble and to
petition the government for redress of grievances
that’s amendment one there’s no separation of church and state in there
and the separation of church and state that Jefferson actually talked about in
one of the documents that he actually wrote a long time ago has to do with the
fact that government cannot influence or change or manipulate someone else’s
belief of what they’re doing you can’t take the faith the religion the
Christian the Hindu the boot is the Islam out of the person who is actually
taking a position in the government it doesn’t work that way you can’t just
shut your faith off at the door if you decide to church to serve your your
government or your country or your local government or your state government it’s
ridiculous would you want someone be able to do that if they did would you
want to actually vote for them well if they don’t believe in their faith that
they could shut it off that quickly how fast do you think they could shut off
anything they promise you to do and the bother and government serving you come
on alright I kind of went off on I ran here with a little tangent as far as
this article here as far as the biggest threats to
religious liberty in the US I think we all need to start paying attention to
this as Christians keep it in mind and if you actually have any tidbits what do
you think are the biggest threats to religious liberty in the u.s. what do
you think of the topics that are hot what do you think are the things that
Christians should be watching out for my fellow brothers and sisters in Christ
what do you think they are do you think that you know there are more people that
are panicked about things and if they are panicked about what things are the
overly panicked about it and if they are what are the topics they’re all really
panicked about what are the things that they’re not panicked enough about or not
paying attention to or we’re losing our religious freedoms as Christians are
getting more attacked what are the things that you folks think are the
problem all right guys listen that’s all I have for you today I hope this was a
little bit enlightening for you I hope this actually this article helped you
out give you a new perspective a new way of looking at things and seeing things
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